{"id":3530,"date":"2026-05-26T10:26:49","date_gmt":"2026-05-26T08:26:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dingueries.noblogs.org\/?p=3530"},"modified":"2026-05-26T02:20:09","modified_gmt":"2026-05-26T00:20:09","slug":"what-else-social-war","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dingueries.noblogs.org\/?p=3530","title":{"rendered":"\u00ab What else&#8230;? Social war \u00bb*"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Initialement publi\u00e9 sur <a href=\"https:\/\/stuut.info\/What-else-Social-war-11818\">stuut.info<\/a> le 15\/05\/2026.<\/em><\/p>\n<div class=\"crayon article-texte-11818 article-texte surlignable\">\n<div class=\"crayon article-descriptif-11818 chapo descriptif-article link-article\">\n<p><strong>Transcription d\u2019une discussion sur la solidarit\u00e9 r\u00e9volutionnaire \u00e0 la foire anarchiste de Ghent, 10\u00a0mai 2026.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><span class=\"caps\">ENGLISH<\/span> <span class=\"caps\">BELOW<\/span><\/p>\n<p><i>Texte d\u2019invitation\u00a0:<br class=\"autobr\" \/>Sachant que notre camarade est d\u00e9tenu \u00e0 la maxi-prison de Haren depuis d\u00e9but novembre 2025, arret\u00e9 par des flics \u00e0 quelques rues de l\u2019endroit o\u00f9 3 v\u00e9hicules de police se consument dans la nuit, nous parlons de solidarit\u00e9 r\u00e9volutionnaire.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i> <\/i><i>Flash news\u00a0: Le camarade comparaitra au tribunal mercredi 20\u00a0mai. Un appel \u00e0 solidarit\u00e9 a \u00e9t\u00e9 publi\u00e9 ici <a class=\"spip_in\" href=\"https:\/\/stuut.info\/Solidarite-avec-notre-compagnon-Liberte-pour-tous-tes-11799\">(2)<\/a>. Le camarade est gard\u00e9 enferm\u00e9 avec des contacts limit\u00e9s vers l\u2019ext\u00e9rieur, pour en savoir plus lire ici <a href=\"https:\/\/stuut.info\/Nouvelles-de-T-incarcere-a-Haren-Bruxelles-et-restrictions-de-visites-11466\">(3)<\/a>.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><strong>Texte de pr\u00e9sentation de Kalimero, fond de solidarit\u00e9 avec les prisonnier.es de la guerre sociale\u00a0:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Quand la r\u00e9pression arrive, on est souvent pris dans un cercle d\u2019urgence et de soutien mat\u00e9riel. Amener des affaires, demander \u00e0 voir l\u2019avocat, les parloirs, pr\u00e9venir la famille, l\u2019argent, &#8230;nourrir les plantes, et en plus mal dormir. Tout ce soutien est n\u00e9cessaire. C\u2019est le quotidien de plein de gens qui vivent en prison ou qui ont leur proche incarc\u00e9r\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>Parfois, \u00e7a p\u00e9trifie. \u00c7a impacte les dynamiques de lutte parce qu\u2019on a peur\u00a0: peur de mettre la personne qui est d\u00e9j\u00e0 dans la merde encore plus dans la merde, peur pour soi. Mais aussi parce qu\u2019on est mal pr\u00e9par\u00e9s. Parce qu\u2019on n\u2019en a pas discut\u00e9 ensemble, parce qu\u2019il y a des trucs qu\u2019on ne veut pas donner \u00e0 ces mains curieuses&#8230; On a la rage. \u00c7a nous fout vraiment la rage. \u00c7a donne envie de tout faire pour que notre pote sorte.<\/p>\n<p>Ce soutien peut aussi emp\u00eacher certaines formes de solidarit\u00e9s. Car pour que les anarchistes et les r\u00e9volt\u00e9s se sentent solidaires, il ne sert \u00e0 rien de se placer uniquement dans une position de victime, ni \u00e0 l\u2019inverse en super-anarchiste sans faille et sans peur. \u00c7a ne cr\u00e9erait que des relations d\u00e9s\u00e9quilibr\u00e9es. Soit une forme de charit\u00e9, soit une forme d\u2019admiration.<\/p>\n<p>Pour que la solidarit\u00e9 puisse vivre plus largement, d\u2019autres que les anarchistes doivent se reconna\u00eetre dans l\u2019acte dont le compagnon est accus\u00e9. Sans pr\u00e9sumer si la personne accus\u00e9e est innocente ou coupable, car ces cat\u00e9gories appartiennent au pouvoir. Il est plus facile d\u2019exprimer ces raisons \u00e0 soi, \u00e0 l\u2019ext\u00e9rieur de la prison. De dire<br class=\"autobr\" \/>pourquoi \u00e7a nous parle, par exemple dans le contexte o\u00f9 une voiture de police est attaqu\u00e9e. On peut alors d\u00e9velopper un discours qui permet de rappeler que non seulement tout le monde d\u00e9teste la police, mais surtout qu\u2019on peut l\u2019attaquer.<\/p>\n<p>On pr\u00e9f\u00e8re agir selon nos propres temporalit\u00e9s, \u00eatre l\u00e0 o\u00f9 on ne nous attend pas. L\u2019\u00c9tat a moins peur de quelques anarchistes fussent-ils d\u00e9termin\u00e9s, que de la diffusion de leurs id\u00e9es et de leurs pratiques. C\u2019est aussi pour \u00e7a que s\u2019enfermer dans un combat perdu d\u2019avance et sym\u00e9trique avec l\u2019\u00c9tat ne permet pas de dialoguer avec les autres<br class=\"autobr\" \/>r\u00e9volt\u00e9s. On entre alors dans un cycle o\u00f9 l\u2019\u00c9tat se venge sur les anarchistes. Les anarchistes r\u00e9pondent dans un dialogue st\u00e9rile. On s\u2019\u00e9puise, la prison d\u00e9truit les corps et les esprits, on se sp\u00e9cialise et on s\u2019isole.<\/p>\n<p>C\u2019est pour \u00e7a qu\u2019il est d\u2019autant plus important de cr\u00e9er les conditions pour continuer nos projets et nos luttes avec nos perspectives, et notamment la n\u00e9cessaire question de la solidarit\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014\u00a0<br class=\"autobr\" \/><i>Invitation text\u00a0:<br class=\"autobr\" \/>In light of our comrade who has been held in the Haren maxi-prison since early November 2025, arrested by cops a few streets away from 3 patrol cars smoldering in the night, we talk about revolutionary solidarity.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i> <\/i><i>News flash\u00a0: the comrade will appear before trial on Wednesday May 20th. A call to solidarity has been published here <a class=\"spip_in\" href=\"https:\/\/stuut.info\/Solidarite-avec-notre-compagnon-Liberte-pour-tous-tes-11799\">(2)<\/a>. The comrade is kept in jail with limited contact to the outside, read more here <a href=\"https:\/\/stuut.info\/Nouvelles-de-T-incarcere-a-Haren-Bruxelles-et-restrictions-de-visites-11466\">(3)<\/a>.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><strong>Presentation by comrades from Kalimero &#8211; Solidarity fund for prisoners of the social war\u00a0:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><i>When repression knocks at our door, at our comrades\u2019 door, we are often taken by a wave of emergency. Those situations indeed call for consistent material support\u00a0: bringing stuff to the jail, contacting lawyers, asking for visitation permits, eventually contacting the family, finding money, or watering their plants. And all of that on top<br class=\"autobr\" \/>of sleeping very poorly. This support is necessary and it\u2019s the everyday life of many people who have an incarcerated loved one.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Sometimes it petrifies us. It can also impact the struggle dynamics on the outside because we are scared to make it worse for the person inside and for ourselves. Because we are unprepared \u2014 we didn\u2019t have those discussions beforehand, or because we\u2019ve got stuff laying around we don\u2019t want nosy pigs to put their hands on.<\/p>\n<p>But it also makes us angry, and we feel like we would do anything to get our comrade out.<\/p>\n<p>But those reactions can also make solidarity that much more difficult. For anarchists and rebels to feel in solidarity, it doesn\u2019t help much to position oneself as a simple victim, nor as a super perfect anarchist who knows no fear. That would only create unbalanced relations. Either charity or admiration.<\/p>\n<p>For solidarity to express itself more broadly, others have to recognize themselves in the actions targeted by repression. Without presuming whether the accused are innocent or guilty, because those categories belong to the state and its judicial apparatus. It is easier to start from our own reasons \u2014 like explaining why it speaks to us that police cars are being attacked. We can then develop a discourse that reminds us it\u2019s not only about everyone hating the police, but also about the possibility to attack it.<\/p>\n<p>We prefer to act according to our own temporalities, to be where they don\u2019t expect us. The state is less afraid of a handful of anarchists, even were they very determined, than of the diffusion of their ideas and practices. That\u2019s also why limiting ourselves to a symmetrical, lost battle with the state doesn\u2019t allow us to enter into dialogue with other rebels. We enter into a cycle where the state takes revenge on anarchists. Anarchists respond in a sterile dialogue. We get tired, prison destroys bodies and minds, we specialize and isolate.<\/p>\n<p><i>That\u2019s why it\u2019s all the more important to create the conditions to continue our projects and our struggles with our perspectives, including the necessary question of solidarity.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><strong>A few words on the discussion that followed, based on personal and<br class=\"autobr\" \/>partial notes.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We were around 50 people on a Sunday afternoon in Ghent to gather around this question. Some were new to anarchist ideas, some were familiar with them, but all were present with a genuine interest in the question at hand. The presentation on solidarity gave way to a &#8211; at first hesitant, and in the end rich &#8211; discussion on solidarity and what that could mean to us. A letter from the imprisoned comrade was read.<\/p>\n<p>We talked about the possibility to connect with other rebels on the subject of anger towards the police. We talked about what solidarity could mean with people we don\u2019t know directly, beyond giving money. Solidarity as a breach of isolation to bring out words of rebellion that exist inside and are often suffocated there. Solidarity as a way of keeping ideas and practices someone is accused of alive and spreading. Solidarity as a way of not only spreading our comrades\u2019 ideas but as an opportunity to reflect on one\u2019s own ideas, one\u2019s own way of thinking about the world we live in, as a way to recognise oneself in the acts someone is accused of. The beautiful solidarity as a way of feeling responsible for the act someone else is accused of, to not let them exist in isolation.<\/p>\n<p>Someone remembered the struggle that had existed more than 10 years ago to oppose the building of the prison in Haren the comrade is now imprisoned in, and more specifically the <span class=\"caps\">ZAD<\/span> (zone \u00e0 d\u00e9fendre) on the &#8211; then still green land and soon to be gray building site and now prison. This experience was linked with new plans for more prisons and detention centers in Flanders and Wallonia, the ever increasing overpopulation in each prison and the ever found \u00ab<small class=\"fine\">\u00a0<\/small>solution<small class=\"fine\">\u00a0<\/small>\u00bb of building more prisons instead of liberating people. Someone remembered the question of how the construction of the Haren prison outside of Brussels was linked to the open air prison which is the city of Brussels.<\/p>\n<p>We talked about the necessity to bring out flyers to the streets and talk about our rage for this world and its oppression with others who are angry aswell and might be more sensitive to our words. We talked about the shifts in what people find acceptable as means of struggle, of the necessity to talk about the roles of judgement, prisons, institutions in our lives.<\/p>\n<p>Organisations in support of or in solidarity with prisoners were mentioned\u00a0: Getting the voice out (who gets out voices of prisoners in detention centers), the anti-repression fund Marius Jacob, the \u00ab<small class=\"fine\">\u00a0<\/small><span class=\"caps\">FAC<\/span><small class=\"fine\">\u00a0<\/small>\u00bb (Fond anticarc\u00e9ral, against prisons and detention centers). All 3 in Belgium. Kalimero Paris (solidarity fund for prisoners of the social war), La Rache in Lille. A solidarity fund and an open anarchist assembly with prisoners, to share struggles of anarchist prisoners, in Greece.<\/p>\n<p>We talked about the wish to overcome distinctions between \u00ab<small class=\"fine\">\u00a0<\/small>political<small class=\"fine\">\u00a0<\/small>\u00bb and \u00ab<small class=\"fine\">\u00a0<\/small>social<small class=\"fine\">\u00a0<\/small>\u00bb prisoners, about the continuity of repressive systems inside and outside of the prison walls, about the difficulty to maintain long lasting bonds of reciprocal solidarity beyond single topic campains, often involving raising money or raising awareness over repressed people linked with struggles elsewhere (Kanaky, Palestine, Sudan,&#8230;). We questioned how those bonds could mutually transform our lives. A comrade presented a translation in solidarity with 9 people who were imprisoned for a wild demo against <span class=\"caps\">ICE<\/span> in Texas, <span class=\"caps\">USA<\/span>, last year and recently found guilty. We talked about the solidarity in acts and words against the police whose violence runs through the whole of society and whose means of killing us are manyfold\u00a0: with their guns and their cars and their knees and their bare hands. Violence which can\u2019t be reformed nor controlled.<\/p>\n<p>* A joke that only those present will understand<small class=\"fine\">\u00a0<\/small>;-)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Initialement publi\u00e9 sur stuut.info le 15\/05\/2026. Transcription d\u2019une discussion sur la solidarit\u00e9 r\u00e9volutionnaire \u00e0 la foire anarchiste de Ghent, 10\u00a0mai 2026. 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